tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post1535028809385775092..comments2023-10-17T08:35:27.492-07:00Comments on Ixobelle (archived): "Phasing" is DumbRichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01024497755617725448noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-85452706530931853652009-01-07T07:12:00.000-08:002009-01-07T07:12:00.000-08:00Just had to add this:It is actually possible to di...Just had to add this:<BR/><BR/>It is actually possible to die during the Undercity event. On the boss in de torturing area I somehow pulled aggro by dpsing, and he oneshotted me... so I had to corpserun. Didn't fail the event though, I guess it was ok for me to die.<BR/><BR/>That'll be all<BR/><BR/>Cheers, GoukaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-16051670005246891272008-12-06T19:28:00.000-08:002008-12-06T19:28:00.000-08:00the saddest part about trolls is that they won't "...the saddest part about trolls is that they won't "Becoming back" to read the followups.<BR/><BR/>while i wish you <I>had</I> bothered to read further, to realize that the whole point of the forsaken is to kill off everyone excluding themselves (the orcs & trolls, and 'fellow' horde included), we're punished for having it come halfway to fruition. I know the whole lore behind sylvanas, i even read the silly WoW books by Knaak. I just think it's silly that she's too busy groveling before Thrall to realize Putrice and Varimathras are actually getting shit done towards that goal, demons or not.<BR/><BR/>the whole stop complaining or make your own fucking game is trite. I've got more articles up on the NEW blog here on how to improve tired concepts in MMOs that keep being implemented for the sake of following the 'code'. I tried to click your name and read YOUR blog but alas, you're content enough to just complain on mine, so...<BR/><BR/>ggRichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01024497755617725448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-15107022131252112412008-12-06T13:18:00.000-08:002008-12-06T13:18:00.000-08:00I stopped reading after you questioned why you're ...I stopped reading after you questioned why you're undead self is asked to stop the undead plague. Sylvanas is your fucking leader first of all. Second varimathras and the fag plague brewer betrayed sylvanas. When you helped them make that poison in the low levels you didn't know it was behind sylvanas back I guess but it was. They betrayed the forsaken to kill off everyone and everything, thats not what sylvanas (forsaken leader) wanted. So of course your going to go out and kill them to clear up your factions name. Now you can continue to be a whiney cry baby bitch that complains about everything like "phasing" its not special, its not new, but its something new to wow to help make the game more dynamic. stop complaining or make your own fucking game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-45089904449888696542008-12-06T12:08:00.000-08:002008-12-06T12:08:00.000-08:00I have to disagree with you on this. This phasing...I have to disagree with you on this. This phasing is a really nice way to immerse yourself further in the storyline. It seems like a lot of your complaint is that the reward (xp and loot) wasn't worth the time invested.<BR/><BR/>This was their first implementation of it, and they did a fine job. I'm looking forward to seeing how much further blizzard can take this concept. What they could do better is explain to the player base what phasing is. Until I read this article I wasn't aware of it; I had assumed I was in a huge instance.<BR/><BR/>I'm alliance, and I was able to enter the instance inside Org and get the acheivement for the place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-32467358575762073312008-12-05T18:41:00.000-08:002008-12-05T18:41:00.000-08:00I have to agree with ya on a lot of your points Ix...I have to agree with ya on a lot of your points Ixobelle. Phasing is shallow attempt at atmosphere and the "You can actually affect the game world" mechanic that I think many MMORPG players have been wanting. Really though it just highlights that your playing a mindless grinding game. <BR/><BR/>It's a shame considering the Warcraft RTS series had a solid storyline. What I would give for a MMO that actually made you felt like your actions meant something.Danshirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10022207369260811095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-52171173187736304352008-12-05T17:27:00.000-08:002008-12-05T17:27:00.000-08:00Hmmm well i see your point...Phasing suxx and I ag...Hmmm well i see your point...<BR/><BR/>Phasing suxx and I agree the changes should go for the whole world... Sometimes I wonder when you have to complete quests which have the terms "erradicate" and "exterminate some poor mob soul" why the hell do I see them spawning endlessly... but whatever.<BR/><BR/>Oh and seriously... with the introduction of the "space-ranger" draenei and the kill of "our favorite stars from WC3 (Illidan, Kael and Vashj) the lore really started to suck... "how the heck can u kill a god with 40ppl?" <BR/><BR/>What about blood elves killing blood elves in Azshara? kek<BR/><BR/>But then again... "/care" about the lore of some fictional game...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-80330678741707682062008-12-05T12:14:00.000-08:002008-12-05T12:14:00.000-08:00Yes and WAR did not "steal" a single concept from ...Yes and WAR did not "steal" a single concept from WoW and other MMO`s, right?<BR/><BR/>Also, the game was created by (EA) Mythic. Games Workshop only contributed as far as the setting is concerned.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I personally like phasing. It has it`s downsides, but at least it allows you the feeling that you are actually affecting the world around you. I do not know about Wrathgate (I have not been able to play much), but I did really enjoy the Death Knight questline.Tom Phoenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09674733626174962032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-77269494738825362202008-12-05T06:26:00.000-08:002008-12-05T06:26:00.000-08:00So....if this is the big "innovation" in WOTLK, I ...So....if this is the big "innovation" in WOTLK, I am really dissapointed. Most of the other "new" ideas are more stealing of games workshop ideas, and the one thing that is "innovative" seems like it is pretty lame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-80445979023339628602008-12-04T19:54:00.000-08:002008-12-04T19:54:00.000-08:00boneriffic;)boneriffic<BR/><BR/>;)Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01024497755617725448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-45215833588286841652008-12-04T13:26:00.000-08:002008-12-04T13:26:00.000-08:00You're dumb, I hate your face and phasing is the m...You're dumb, I hate your face and phasing is the most awesome bonerific thing to ever happen to wow. YOU SUCK!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-23641953584337834092008-12-03T01:39:00.000-08:002008-12-03T01:39:00.000-08:00You have some good points, phasing is lame when it...You have some good points, phasing is lame when it stops you from helping a mate. But its still the only way to have some change in the game. It was cool to see something going on in the capital cities for a change, and something to actually happen when you do quests, as opposed to burning barns and the same barns being fine anyway.<BR/><BR/>The battle for uc was too long, but I think john q gamer who just does 5 mans and bgs would have a fit when he got to shadowbolt things for 50k for a change, or maybe not. <BR/><BR/>For the wow haters who seem to appear from time to time on blogger, sure you may hate wow, but its hard to disagree with the masses who love it, espically when you say your off to play random crappy mmo #343.<BR/><BR/>For the time sink person, do you come home from a long hard days work and learn a language ? or play tennis or rocket science ? Ok you might do it one night a week, but what do you do the rest ? play xbox or watch tv ? replace those with wow and you pretty much have most people, its not a waste of time if it was already going to be wasted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-72313164477449912932008-12-03T00:24:00.000-08:002008-12-03T00:24:00.000-08:00I'm half and half on this one. On the one hand, I...I'm half and half on this one. On the one hand, I was also disappointed by the cinematic, since I avoided all spoilers for it and didn't expect the kinda lame looking machinima thing. Was hoping for something as impressive as the proper cinematics. The whole slow march through UC in god mode also got a bit tedious.<BR/><BR/>However it was a real story with a real reason for being there. This wasn't the usual "Complete quest, hologram of Illidan says something cryptic, 4 gold and some gloves". This was a game changer in the 'story' of WoW.<BR/><BR/>If you're not into that sort of thing, yeah you're not going to enjoy it. Unless the reward was an upgrade there's nothing for you there.<BR/><BR/>The thing with the undead was, as far as I could gather, that a bunch of them (under varimathras and putress) wanted to kill *everyone*. Not just Arthas and the Alliance, but every fucker.<BR/><BR/>But the real kicker for me was the teaser of reigniting the Horde/Ally war. An actual war and not the uneasy truce we have now. Just like you I always roll horde (usually undead). The bit at the end with the Allys showing up actually made me think "Wrynn is a fucking dick, I want to tear him a new one now". Not that we'll see any repercussions of that for a while, but it was hopefully a teaser for more to come.<BR/><BR/>I'm not much of a huge lorenerd but WoW has some interesting stories and characters. I enjoyed the story they told with it, even if the overall event was a little sub-par. It was an interesting distraction and a nice surprise.<BR/><BR/>As for phasing, you're missing it a little bit, because it's not instances. When you're standing "next" to someone on a different stage, you are actually standing right next to them, not in a different instance. You just can't see them. I think if you play around on private servers you'd find that it's possible to see everything at once, 3 thralls wandering around in his throne room, people doing the Underity event next to bank alts.<BR/><BR/>You weren't in an instanced Orgrimmar or Undercity, you were in the same city as everyone else but they were hidden from view.<BR/><BR/>Also if you've done the quest chain, Varimathras is gone. If you didn't do his quests with that character, too bad. You killed him.<BR/><BR/>So yeah, could have been better but it was a nice change of pace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-25099451725797109702008-12-02T17:03:00.000-08:002008-12-02T17:03:00.000-08:00I would agree that Wrath Gate is dumb. At no point...I would agree that Wrath Gate is dumb. At no point is it interesting on any other level than the story they're trying to tell there, and given World of Warcraft's track record they should probably just assume that nobody really thinks text bubble orc exposition is all that interesting. <BR/><BR/>Phasing as a whole however made leveling very enjoyable to me. World of Warcraft has moved further and further away from the actual world you level in. Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor are barren besides for a few mid-30 night elf hunters. Outlands exists solely to acclimate Death Knights to the game and feels extremely removed from the rest of universe. Even most Northrend zones will burn out after people finish leveling.<BR/><BR/>People confine themselves to two cities (one with an auction house and Dalaran), and then fly miles above the landscape or get teleported straight to instances, PvP zones, and raids. More and more the actual world of WoW is becoming a single player game that exists as the entry barrier to raiding and PvP, two things that avoid the game world completely and rely on instances.<BR/><BR/>Someone not seeing the same thing is not really a big deal any more. Two people see two different things at Wrath Gate? The real question is who the fuck cares? Why would anyone go back there unless they plan on putting a raid entrance there in a future patch.<BR/><BR/>Don't judge phasing based on Wrath Gate. It doesn't utilize it well. Zul'Drak, Storm Peaks, and Icecrown all effectively use phasing. You can raid cities that later end up becoming home bases for you, and are able to actually benefit from questing on a level beyond earning gold (something you can easily find in many other places). Instead phasing allows you to unlock new factions, daily quests, towns, flight points, etc.<BR/><BR/>I see phasing as a way to create more diversity between the player base in a way that doesn't really segregate them while giving questing it's own set of rewards. I'm much more likely to finish off the remaining quests I have after hitting the level cap in Wrath of the Lich King than I did in Burning Crusade because of it.no means nomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032215656558744939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-33438523928234676612008-12-02T15:48:00.000-08:002008-12-02T15:48:00.000-08:00godstorm: hehe, the "ixo" thing is actually relati...godstorm: hehe, the "ixo" thing is actually relatively new. i wrote as (and had my first toon named) isobelle for a long time. isobelle.blogspot.com was already taken (go there, it's totally blank, gg), as was isobelle.com. after making a bunch of alts (izobelle, issobelle, isxobelle, ixobelle), i made my rogue my main (ixobelle), and that name is never taken, anywhere, so there ya go.<BR/><BR/>regarding phasing / wrath gate: i know we were fighting big demons, but clearing to the demon bosses was a bunch of little undead chicks with the bride of frankenstein hairdo. like, regular undead. it just felt silly to be hellfiring them down, but then again, when you think about it, the other races have been dealing with this quandry for a while now ("bad orcs" in UBRS, "bad trolls" in ZG, ZA, ZF, Z-whatever). i guess it's about time I kill some undead, too :(<BR/><BR/>The phasing thing still feels like i'm throwing a torch at the same barn over and over again, though. i think it just splinters the playerbase, as noted with the questhub thing mentioned where the rogue can't help their friend anymore... although the same thing happened with the ogrila faction earlier on, where after becoming friendly with the ogres, you couldn't help your friend catch up.<BR/><BR/>i don't really need to feel like *I PERSONALLY* need to have an effect on the world at large. i'd just like the world to change from time to time for everyone. it could be a scripted event, or something players work together for... i just want to log in one day, and find a smoking crater where the UC used to be (that EVERYONE SEES), and have to ask in general chat "/1 wtf happened to the UC lol?", and have another player fill me in. that creates a social experience, without any single player needing to be the one that CAUSED it.Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01024497755617725448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-77423534286988348632008-12-02T10:39:00.000-08:002008-12-02T10:39:00.000-08:00I like phasing. I think it's the most elegant sol...I like phasing. I think it's the most elegant solution they could come up with for the problem: "I want the player to be able to see him/herself change the world, but I can't have 11 million people all changing the world." As long as they keep using it sparingly, it's good.<BR/><BR/>But it does have some major, infuriating cons. The most important quest hub at 80, Dun Niffelheim (rep with the faction based here, Sons of Hodir, is the only way to get pve shoulder enchants), is phased in multiple steps. The entire area where you do dailies is phased, like, 5 times. What this means is that now that I've done this long questline to unlock the dailies on my rogue, I can no longer help my healer friend complete the questline to unlock the dailies herself. So that sucks. They really should have planned that better.<BR/><BR/>As for the Forsaken thing...I think it was more the apothecary society always telling you to make a plague, and not really the Forsaken establishment themselves. They were basically an evil offshoot faction within the Forsaken, and that's what you wipe out, and you actually put the Forsaken in charge of Undercity again, rather than the DEMONS that were controlling it when you, Thrall, and Sylvanas showed up. You may have noticed that you were fighting demons and Scourge, not Forsaken, for control of Undercity. Sylvanas has been the queen of Undercity since the game came out. She's undead, just like you, just happens to have started out as an elf and not had her entire face rot off yet. :)<BR/><BR/>But they really could have explained that in-game a whole lot better. Also, the questline leading up to the Wrathgate was oddly unrelated to the ending, and the assault on Undercity was tedious as hell and could have stood to be about 1/10th of the length and, like, vaguely dangerous rather than making you immortal.Hatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03615033343005638291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-36816483418054887042008-12-02T07:30:00.000-08:002008-12-02T07:30:00.000-08:00/listen to rant/nod/disagreeSorry man but you are .../listen to rant<BR/>/nod<BR/>/disagree<BR/><BR/>Sorry man but you are way out of line here. You consistantly argue for more realism in your MMOs whether it be in trade skills or quest progression. So lets examine the flip side of the argument you are making:<BR/><BR/>Orc leader X wants you to torch Barn Y. In non-phased events you would walk up to an already burning barn that has been torched 584,082 times in the past 3 hours and you would, you guessed it, throw a torch on it, to complete your quest.<BR/><BR/>And you say phasing makes no sense...<BR/><BR/>I agree that Bliz needs to be careful to not apply this concept to liberally or the entire concept of reality in game comes undone. However for quest lines like Wrath Gate or even in Icecrown I feel this tactic has been used with a great deal of care. <BR/><BR/>It is obviously more complex to code, design, and implement. So to that degree Bliz again gets points for trying something innovative and not just resting on their laurels *cough* TBC *cough*. <BR/><BR/>Your point about the forsaken is taken with a grain of salt. I mean on the one hand I see where you say undead would side with their undead brethren. On the other though Thrall and Sylv have to keep the Horde entact, losing the forsaken would be devastating (GDI I hate talking lore). So they need to keep those boys in line. Besides I got screens of my retardin critting for 43k, thats worth at least something :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-18915990361867446822008-12-02T04:59:00.000-08:002008-12-02T04:59:00.000-08:00Single player MMO for the win!It's hard enough to ...Single player MMO for the win!<BR/><BR/>It's hard enough to not label it all a giant timesink in which we could all be learning other languages or rocket science, but to waste time only for me to see... damn that's lame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-53323388480126821222008-12-02T04:49:00.000-08:002008-12-02T04:49:00.000-08:00Sorry its late, i said ISO Ixo**-embarrassed-Sorry its late, i said ISO <BR/><BR/>Ixo**<BR/><BR/>-embarrassed-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-26676921197942546692008-12-02T04:48:00.000-08:002008-12-02T04:48:00.000-08:00Iso I've been following you for the past couple ye...Iso I've been following you for the past couple years and i love your posts. <BR/><BR/>Now about wow. Honestly I've never played such a poorly thought out game. I haven't purchased WoTLK and I'm holding off until Darkfall comes out. my wow subscription went down after Kara and i don't think it will be coming back up.<BR/><BR/>I still enjoy reading the changes they've made though your point of view, keep it upAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com