tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post7905496178651936051..comments2023-10-17T08:35:27.492-07:00Comments on Ixobelle (archived): MMOs, Story, and... Penny-Arcade?Richhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01024497755617725448noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-87107059855379794602010-11-19T05:21:13.449-08:002010-11-19T05:21:13.449-08:00Hey Ixo, wake up...Hey Ixo, wake up...Nikolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10257106108145210815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-78749569455148066732010-11-09T08:58:46.900-08:002010-11-09T08:58:46.900-08:00We want story the first time around, but after tha...We want story the first time around, but after that, we want to skip it. Same with cut-scenes. Skip, skip, skip.<br />And by story I mean story, and not "I haven't had time to shop. Go fetch me 10 bunnies and 20 carrots for tea from Bob's Market in the Vale of Death"<br />Bullshit quests don't count as story.*vlad*noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-55959642995618805652010-10-30T05:44:17.491-07:002010-10-30T05:44:17.491-07:00man u havent posted anything .... where r u?man u havent posted anything .... where r u?kangaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12294567107640849248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-92194113924315919002010-09-24T08:16:42.841-07:002010-09-24T08:16:42.841-07:00I dunno. I actually played D&D when I was in ...I dunno. I actually played D&D when I was in college, and our group wasn't entirely focused on just rolling dice. There was more to it. Of course, I *NEVER* had the slightest bit of interest in RP in WoW, and I installed the thott addon at launch that gave you instant quest text instead of scrolling it...<br /><br />But at the same time, I read a LOT of books. I don't know. I already quit WoW because it got way too... meaningless? Too quick reward for little or failed effort... and this just sounds like a further evolution of that to take it the way you're saying to take it.<br /><br />I get what you're saying about why you want to play games, but when I want THAT feeling, I don't play an MMO. I play Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Starcraft 2, or HALO:Reach. Stuff that's meant to run it's course in around 15-30 minutes every match, and then be restarted or dropped. MMOs are meant to have length and longevity, and story, and meaning, and effort, and sometimes wasted effort that becomes a learning experience.<br /><br />Although I've argued before and would still that WoW is closer to Diablo 2 multiplayer experience than it is a *TRUE* MMO experience.<br /><br />And for some reason, I still have your blog in my bookmark toolbar and I still read it, even though it's like all about WoW, lol.Khatibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05307234341938156633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-30983489870109492112010-09-17T14:27:55.666-07:002010-09-17T14:27:55.666-07:00Check out Tycho/Jerry's post. There's you...Check out Tycho/Jerry's post. There's your awesome. TOR's goodness depends. It could suck, it could be awesome.<br /><br /> Examples of recent Bioware games: Mass Effect 1 had decent gameplay, 2 kinda changed it in a way that didn't sit well with me, but fixed some other stuff. These will influence TOR, somewhat. If you want to know if the game is going to be good, find out who the lead designers are, and see what they designed before-hand.Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11166288577481375016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-25947719942196348012010-09-17T13:05:04.822-07:002010-09-17T13:05:04.822-07:00yeah, but you were compelled to read up on the wik...yeah, but you were compelled to read up on the wiki (and I have, too) because the game initially won you over.<br /><br />Too many games feel like the first hour is spent *hoping it gets better later on down the road*. WoW had me out the gate. A story (at that point, besides the lame little cut scene) hasn't even had a chance to be experienced. <br /><br />I think the first time I hit charge on my first warrior was when WoW had me. More games need to be focusing on that, and not hoping the walls of text (however wonderfully written) will keep the playerbase entertained, because no one is reading during raids (or pvp), they're PLAYING.Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01024497755617725448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-55237673753441649332010-09-17T11:14:54.262-07:002010-09-17T11:14:54.262-07:00@Stabs: Well, a pertaining lack of deep story work...@Stabs: Well, a pertaining lack of deep story worked well for CoD, eh? Besides that, I always wanted the know more about the Potter world rather than how angsty Harry was feeling that day. And I was roughly the age he was meant to be when a book was released.<br /><br />@Ixo: Eh...I agree but disagree. I think that, yes, the combat and gameplay pillar is "more equal" than all the other pillars. On the other hand, I spent a fuck-ton of time reading WoWiki because I wanted to know more about the world. If TOR can do that in-game, I'll be all over it. Despite being an avid reader, sometimes books just don't cut it. I'd like some of that in my game.Griddlebonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10962441207705954400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-1989219757563731012010-09-17T10:47:42.120-07:002010-09-17T10:47:42.120-07:00Story worked pretty well for JK Rowling.
Who care...Story worked pretty well for JK Rowling.<br /><br />Who cares about stealing WoW's numbers? Numbers are numbers it really doesn't matter where they come from.<br /><br />A storytelling piece of art that is enjoyed by millions would be a success. If SWTOR is a storytelling piece of art that is enjoyed by millions - and none of them have ever played WoW - it will be a success.<br /><br />Screw WoW, stay true to your vision, Bioware.Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-37988220549899374842010-09-17T09:17:59.875-07:002010-09-17T09:17:59.875-07:00I'm a strong believer in story in games in gen...I'm a strong believer in story in games in general, but indeed, not every game needs it. MMOs in particular should be about player story, not dev story. That's facilitated by great gameplay, not voiced cutscenes. (And dynamic worlds, perhaps, but that's a bridge too far.)<br /><br />The SMGalaxy team MMO really would be an interesting one. Boil it down even further. I don't think we'll see that for a little while yet because of tech constraints... but it's getting closer.Teshhttp://tishtoshtesh.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-71952053118812832322010-09-17T08:18:10.179-07:002010-09-17T08:18:10.179-07:001) I, too, want a hubba rock of WoW crack(preferab...1) I, too, want a hubba rock of WoW crack(preferably of the raiding variety). We're coming on one year of ICC, and that pipe is TAPPED OUT. We've been smoking resin (does crack have resin?) for months.<br /><br />2) I'm one of those people who likes Tycho's news posts. In fact, I often like them more than the comic. It's just my kind of thing. It's important to approach them with your critical thinking intact, but at the same time I greatly enjoyed attending PAX East and I admire what they are doing with Child's Play. I think they deserve some credit for taking that following and doing something awesome with it, instead of cynically exploiting it for cash. I'm sure they make lots of money, but unlike so many companies I have to give my money to, I feel like the PA guys *earn* it.<br /><br />3) Actually getting back to your point: you're absolutely right that story isn't the savior, we need a good **GAME** to enjoy. I was disappointed, but not remotely surprised, when gameplay reports started coming back that Swotr was just another "go down a hall and pull some stormtroopers while their buddies 5 yards away don't seem to notice you slaughtering them with your autoattacks and actions buttons".<br /><br />Mass Effect 2 was easily my game of the year. Sure, it had a lot of great story, but I replayed it 5 times because I loved the gameplay. SC2 had pretty much the shittiest/stupidest story ever, but it was so well presented and the gameplay was so good, I still loved it.Hatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03615033343005638291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-90117192698659062252010-09-16T21:49:46.908-07:002010-09-16T21:49:46.908-07:00WoW makes great crack and it's great for peopl...WoW makes great crack and it's great for people who want to smoke crack. SWTOR might work for people who want something other than crack. Or maybe not. But however well it tells the story, you're right, it's not going to kill WoW with story. Story is for other people.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-25546509553498725272010-09-16T19:49:30.068-07:002010-09-16T19:49:30.068-07:00I do have my shortcut linked to the PA Comic and n...I do have my shortcut linked to the PA Comic and not their homepage. Sometimes, depending on the comic, I'll click through to the article to see what they have to say about it, but most often I'll read the comic and either have a chuckle or say 'Meh' and close the Tab.Cap'n Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15267651027289124037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-53872263625094891892010-09-16T18:36:44.808-07:002010-09-16T18:36:44.808-07:00Edit: Blogger needs an edit function for posts, sr...Edit: Blogger needs an edit function for posts, srsly.<br /><br />It's not about a wall of text, Ixo, it's weither that wall of text is worth reading. Yours kinda are. They're unformatted, ranty, and base. Basically word-crack in it's purest form. Kinda like cookies dipped in jam.<br /><br />I agree that WoW needs to focus on the GAME not the BOOK. But what have they shown us with gameplay? Arenas are fun, raiding is eh.<br /><br />I really think they need to replace raiding with something far more variable, otherwise, it's just not interesting.<br /><br />Will star wars beat down WoW? Imagine Mass Effect crack spliced with KotOR. YEAH. Compare that to Cata. Yeah. TOR isn't going to be good because it's got a book, it could be good if it has the game + the book. Which the devs have a lot of experience with.Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11166288577481375016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-36182278426106025072010-09-16T18:34:17.554-07:002010-09-16T18:34:17.554-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11166288577481375016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563653272708826682.post-34390656758608449672010-09-16T17:53:33.482-07:002010-09-16T17:53:33.482-07:00Your right..
Marmaduke is a pile of shit.Your right..<br /><br /><br />Marmaduke is a pile of shit.oshinnoreply@blogger.com